They're Going To Riot, Whether You Like It or Not

They're Going To Riot, Whether You Like It or Not

Gavin Gavin Gavin. You remember that phrase? If you don't know what I'm talking about, click away....


I have to say, Gavin. You were bold and I liked your Moxie but you know what they did? They took your words and they ran with them. When Prop 8 came around to voting they used your words and they made the morons vote Yes on Prop 8...



Well, we all know how that went. I wrote a shit ton of blogs about how you're a fucking moron if you vote Yes on this stupid prop and that you should vote no or I'll track you down and cut off your balls. I was called a fag lover by some random e-mailer. Which confused me because I didn't know someone stupid enough to have that mindset could use a computer. Then again, have I seen what is being posted on the internet lately?

The prop passed and there was protest, marches and El Coyote lost a lot of business, even though they are pretty good and cheap on the wallet. Promises that they were going to take it up with the court systems and well... we have some news on that.. or do we?

SF Mayor Gavin Newsom Asked Court to Delay Prop 8 Ruling

Confidential sources close to San Francisco City Hall told Towleroad's Corey Johnson that the California Supreme Court was prepared to release its opinion on Proposition 8 tomorrow, but decided to delay the ruling after a call from Mayor Gavin Newsom.

Newsom"Newsom reached out to the Supreme Court and asked them to hold off releasing their decision so it did not coincide with the White Night riots," said our source.

As mentioned earlier, a ruling Thursday would have fallen on the 30th anniversary of the San Francisco riots, which were set off when the court handed down the most lenient decision possible (voluntary manslaughter) against Dan White for the murders of supervisor Harvey Milk and Mayor George Moscone. The ensuing riots in San Francisco on May 21, 1979 caused hundreds of thousands of dollars in damage.

UPDATE: Towleroad received this tip from a highly credible source who did the interview on the condition that they remain anonymous. We have been working to get additional sources.

Gavin Newsom's office has issued a release denying the story.

San Francisco Supervisor Bevan Dufty spoke with Towleroad late this afternoon, saying he doubted the claims. Said Dufty: "It is implausible if not impossible to imagine that the Mayor could reach out to the California Supreme Court. Any thinking person would know that he would be radioactive to the justices given his leadership on the issue. His father is a retired federal judge. The Mayor's courage on this issue is unimpeachable. He would not intrude in what we've been waiting for."

Burn Orange County to the motherfucking ground. Clearly this isn't a good sign. How could it be? Gavin asked for it NOT to be announced on the anniversary of the white riots. The california supreme court's decision has to be released within 2 weeks, and if they didn't want it to coincide with the anniversary of huge gay riots it's pretty certain this decision is the one that will get the gays out on the streets.

It was always only a small posibility that the courts would overturn prop 8. However, it is not likely to survive on referendum past 2010 or 2012 at the latest. With the small margin it lost by in 2008, California would have to be resisting the national trends toward support for gay marriage to maintain the "no" majority for that long.

The CA legislature should pass a band-aid law to recognize marriages performed in other states, like NY and DC have. Then CA gays can take some vacations into Iowa, see some corn, and come back married. Oh yeah, Prop 8 made even that illegal...


Chuck Lorre is 100%, Everyone should have the right to be miserable.

With Gavin looking to run for Governor after Arnold's run on ruining the state is over, this is going to be a hot issue. Hopefully he can make good on having the doors busted wide open on this whole matter.. So failing on the promise of telling people to like it or not... it may not be the best.

But I hope they do riot. Just because it falls on a different day doesn't mean the outcome will change. Bad news is bad news no matter how you shake it. I hear they're putting barricades in the castro to prepare for the riots. Even if they decided to take this to the supreme court, it'll be a stupid decision.


This is what Google image gave me when I asked for Gay Marriage Riots.. I can't wait!

Not to mention it's a state issue.. But, you know.. if SCOTUS took it up i think it'd be more likely that they'd decide that DOMA prohibited states from recognizing gay marriages and invalidate gay marriages everywhere in all states. It'll be far less painful for everyone to put a measure on the 2010/2012 ballot to repeal it, which is what will happen.

Will it pass again then? Well, that's where I suggest we burn Orange County to the fucking ground. Toss in the Inland Empire in that napalm blast. But just make sure you don't make the same mistake that the 90's riots did. That is mess up your own back yard. West Hollywood is already gearing up for it..

Don’t Trash WeHo When Protesting Prop 8

Thursday, May 21, 2009 – Op-Ed By Sam Borelli, West Hollywood

West Hollywood, California (Thursday, May 21, 2009) - West Hollywood’s intersection of Santa Monica and San Vicente Boulevards has a long tradition of being the gay community’s gathering place, be it in celebration or protest.

Most recently we gathered more than a few times to protest the passage of Proposition 8, which added discrimination to the California Constitution by denying same-sex couples their previously afforded legal right to marry.

Observers believe that the court will uphold the passage of Proposition 8, and we will again take to the streets of West Hollywood.

Unfortunately, there have been rumblings that otherwise responsible, level-headed folk are gearing up to throw bricks.

Equality California (EQCA) sent an E mail yesterday that began, “The decision we have been waiting for is coming any day now. While we hope for the best, we are prepared to do whatever it takes to win marriage back (emphasis added),”

WeHo News contacted EQCA for a clarification, but did not receive a response before deadline.

Anything but non-violent demonstrations would be very bad turns on very many fronts. We have seen time after time a community in outrage destroy their own.

It’s happened here before.

Turning on West Hollywood is not a solution. Harming our businesses, putting our residents and visitors in harm’s way is not going to help. Forcing our Sheriff’s personnel to take drastic action against us only harms a relationship with a very good ally.

In November, 2008 our very own WeHo Sheriff’s personnel did an amazing job working with city staffers and community leaders to keep us safe and protected.

It was not our Sheriff’s that we saw the next day on the news swinging bats. In fact, over those following few weeks we really tapped out their resources with many protests starting elsewhere else and ending up here in West Hollywood.

Yes, if the CA Supreme Court upholds Prop 8 we will be angry. There is still anger in the community four months later.

I hear it, others do too, and yes, we need an outlet for that anger. But let’s not allow the outlet to be violent and self-destructive.

Let’s gather, yell, scream, march, stomp our feet, and other forms of getting the anger out.

Then let us come together as a community and do what we need to do together to turn this tide around.

There have been groups that have sprung into action since Prop 8 passed.

The Courage Campaign and Equal Roots are just two that offer positive, action oriented activities and objectives to help our cause and move us forward.

Equality Central, formerly Equality Network, has been amazing at letting us know about the many events and activities in which to participate. Remember the press coverage?

We have the opportunity to show the world that we can take what comes next.

All struggles like this have had setbacks, Women’s Suffrage and the African American Civil Rights Movement to name just a few.

It does not make it okay, but it should make us stronger, and more determined.

I do hope that we are able to celebrate but if not, let’s be together, be angry together, grieve together, and then move forward together without harming those that help us or are part of our struggle.

Together, we can make it happen wisely and, hopefully, peacefully.

Sam Borelli serves on the West Hollywood Public Safety Commission and writes a blog called Walking WeHo, from which this op-ed is republished with Mr. Borelli’s express permission.

gay rights or gay riots is a damn good slogan

"Fuck You Got Mine" Conservatives/ Prop 8 Blows

"Fuck You Got Mine" Conservatives /Prop 8 Blows

Yes, this yet another Prop 8 related blog. I realize, I must want to have my gay marriage now, right? I just think that this prop and the people behind the campaign to get it passed are the lowest form of scum. This is one of those confusing election choices. A vote for no means yes to rights of others and a vote for yes means no to human rights.



As many were passing out candy on Halloween, there was a handful of people passing out something worse than dental floss, candy corn and pennies. They handed these fliers out to parents out with their children advocating a YES on Prop 8 by using scare tactics on what they're children may or may not be exposed to in schools. The kicker here, even if prop 8 is passed, your students can still be taught about gay marriage in school. There's nothing in the writing of prop 8 that eliminates the ability for schools to teach about gay marriages.

If you're a teacher and prop 8 passes, I implore you to go right ahead and teach about gay marriage in school in the context of this very same proposition stripping gays of their equal rights to marry. That'll show the knights of columbus and Mormon groups. Then again, if this gets passed and gay marriage is taken away, they'll be happy anyway. So it's a lose/lose situation no matter how you cut it unless prop 8 doesn't pass. Again, MARRIAGE ISN'T TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS TILL THE MIDDLE SCHOOL/HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL! And even then parents have the rights to opt their kids out of the class if they feel the need to be so ignorant to do so. Oh yes, this is during Health/Biology class and Sex ed. So it's not a freak'n surprise!


Dirty Pool, Pro-prop 8. Dirty fuckin' pool!

I recently talked to a friend from out of state about the props on the ballot this year and he wondered why Prop 8 was looking like it was going to pass. How California looks to be a generally liberal place. Not so much. Most of California is backwater shit holes filled with rednecks like Bakersfield , Fresno, and the Inland Empire. Then you have Orange and San Diego Counties that are bastions of "fuck you got mine" conservatives. San Diego is Bakersfield with a beach and comic con. There are dozens of better California beach front cities that aren't filled with brain dead soldiers and bitter old people.

Orange County is a horrible shit hole filled with upper-middle-class tools, racists, bros, and is home to Saddle back Church and that asshole who wrote the Purpose Driven Life as well as the Trinity Broadcast Network. So it doesn't surprise me that it spawns such hatred that driving through there has a sea of YES ON 8 signs plastered everywhere. It did give us Nixon and was a city who latches onto the L.A. name for a baseball team as well as going bankrupt while having a major theme park in their city. Talk about Reaganomics.


This is why I understand when people want
California to float off into the ocean

That's the key here. "Fuck You Got Mine" is the only mentality that kicks in here. Straight people have had the right for marriage for as long as anyone can remember. Will it really hurt their marriage to allow gay people to join them in that dreaded celebration of misery?

I have never heard a reasonable, thought out response to someone asking why marriage is somehow in trouble, and why people think voting against gay marriage is "protecting" marriage. does your marriage become null and void if gay marriage becomes legal? I just don't get it. Also, this whole battle has changed my opinion on Mormons from "whatever" to "fucking cult assholes."



I hate that people say heterosexual marriage is what is traditional. If we were going for tradition we would still see marriage as an exchange of property, not love, and require dowries. It's bullshit that people are trying to defend a false institution. Marriage has never been sanctified in the first place, throughout history its been a tool of oppression and then when it finally becomes more or less equal it is debased by reality TV and divorce rates

I can only hope that it fails due to the bradley effect. People say yes yes keep those faggots from marrying, then go into the booth and think "what the fuck am i doing? here i am voting a black man in for president then voting against faggots, what the fuck is wrong with me?" I don't even see anywhere in the new testament where god gives a shit about government. If anyone tells you "It's Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve", just slap them. Seriously. Slap them.

Make the right choice. Vote NO on Prop 8