Pissing On The Corpse of our Pointless Victory - More Osama Talk

Pissing On The Corpse of our Pointless Victory - More Osama Talk

As if the last post I made about the subject of Osama's death didn't warrant a visit from the secret service, I figure once more should do the trick. More news on how we caught up with him and the whole security and safety of the person who pulled the trigger is coming out.

(CNN) -- A diplomatic source told CNN that the courier who was in close contact with Osama bin Laden and who eventually led the United States to him was a Kuwaiti named Abu Ahmad.

U.S. officials have said that when the identity of the courier -- who they have not named -- was established in 2007 the U.S. began a path to the house in Abbottabad, Pakistan, where the al Qaeda leader was living.

Ha ha ha ha. Look at the USA hanging this dude out to die like a motherfucker. Snitches get stitches. Or in this case get their head put on a pike. I mean, that's some cold blooded shit, America.

Did you really just utter the guy who helped you find him in the same breath as you just saying that the soldiers couldn't be named for their own safety because that's just funny. I'm pretty sure that the dude had nothing to do with it at all and this is just some guy who they just want dead and having the terrorist do all the work for them.


A perfect summary about either everything great or everything wrong about America.

But it's been almost three days and I still can't process all of this. Not to take sides, but we killed Osama by illegally entering Pakistan to assassinate him, much like in the same way terrorist acts are perpetrated, apparently based upon intelligence obtained from the torture of captured prisoners. Many of which were captured fighting off the systematic intrusion of the largest empire in the history of modern world invading, killing, starving and brutalizing them to death for conquest, treasure and oil cloaked in the guise of freedom and democracy.

And we're here celebrating this claiming that we are in the right. To say that have the moral high ground here. When there is an international criminal court that real justice, you know the kind that comes from a system of democracy that we proclaim to be spreading, could have handled this without the blood shed being on our hands.

I would like to remind folks that the Taliban offered to simply hand over bin laden on 10/01 with the one and only condition being that he get tried anywhere but the U.S. Like some sort of international court. And we said Fuck You. 10 years and tens of thousands of soldier and civilian deaths, we finally proclaim "justice being served?"

Just look at the latest report coming out of CNN saying he wasn't even armed.

Abbottabad, Pakistan (CNN) -- Osama bin Laden was not armed but did put up resistance when U.S. forces entered the compound he was in and killed him, White House spokesman Jay Carney said Tuesday.

Why yes, the target viciously assaulted our boots and gun stocks with his cane, dentures and flaying fifty year old hands until we were forced to employ lethal force. No way we could have brought him back alive.

I'm apparently going to be the wildest UFO conspiracy nut around because I don't think we tossed his fucking body into the ocean. In fact, one friend who is a complete UFO nut who believes that there's an Alien moonbase looks at me like I'm crazy when I bring up the notion that they might not be telling us the complete truth about the body.

It's really stupid to say you tossed the number one enemy who we were looking for nine years into the ocean after killing him. That is literally something a five year old would come up with as an excuse as to what happened to his homework. Don't try to bullshit a bullshitter. You didn't throw shit into the ocean.


When we have the blood of the deaths from all those 9.5 years on our hands. Something we could have avoided if we were any where as civilized as we proclaim to be. I mean, just look at the following paper and tell me that doesn't scream AMERICA.JPG



Man, I'm so glad that with this death the war on terror is now over and everything can get right back to normal. At some point the BBC world service was asking some random person "Does this mean Al-Qaeda is completely defeated now??"

Some MSNBC military industrial stooge said that this "won't change our operations in Afghanistan greatly" and then someone else mentioned that we need to go into Yemen to finish the fight. Awesome. The worse part of this is that it gives legitimacy to Obama's war in Libya.

No sir, we're not going to stop in Afghanistan till those Afghans listen to country music and drive hot rods. Them's the truth! If justice is considered served because we killed the person behind the 9/11 attacks, then perhaps I would worry about our comeuppance's with all the innocent kill

I'm also going to get tired on how people use this discovery of Osama as justification for torture at Guantanamo since it's reported that some of the prisoners gave up their leader from there. Anyone with half a brain has figured out that there's only one thing you can thank for the discovery of Osama.. and that's the PS3 leaked account info.

Or maybe not, maybe he was the mayor of too many pool halls on foursquare and the duke of too many local establishments on Yelp check-in's that gave his location away. Either way, the extreme torture that we get criticized for didn't work. It wasn't that which cracked the whistle blower. They gave up information months later under the more socially accepted methods of getting information. Who would have thunk it?



But hey, maybe if you let me kill and torture anyone you wanted tortured for information for a trillion dollars and I'm pretty sure that if you wait a decade, I can get you the information you need.

So for all of you who are so adamant about GITMO being worth it and the extreme torture techniques working, FUCK YOU. Every day I breath I am reminded on what it is like to live in Germany circa 1938.

Maybe I'm just losing perspective here. Sure, we killed hundreds of thousands of people and ruined two countries. But what if we did all that shit and had nothing to show for it? Kind of makes you look at the revelry another way, don't it?

Actually, not really. It's still mindless drunks out in the street being no better than the savages that we proclaimed those in the middle east acted like when 9/11 happened. There's a reason why they scream death to America. And it's not our freedom that they hate and want to kill us for. It's our shitty foreign policy and our need to butt into every affair as the world's police.



I'm still not sure how justice was served up. Yeah, we finally got the person who everyone claims orchestrated 9/11. A figure head of the Taliban. But if we're counting it as Osama got the towers and we got him, thus the score is evened up, then what about the whole part about September 11 being a natural response to five decades of punitive foreign policy.

Oh no! Did I just say that? Oh man, now I'm going to be labeled a terrorist because I don't automatically seeing U.S. foreign policy being correct all the time.

To touch on the subject on how these events bring out the worse in people, my facebook news feed for the time after the news broke was filled with people saying things like, "I hope those towel heads get the message this time!"

That's right, the message that if you mastermind a plan to kill 3,000 Americans, we will kill you 9.5 years later while you chill in your mansion. Man, that's really a great message to come across with.

Just do an Your Open Facebook search for the words Osama and Towel and suddenly become depressed beyond belief. It's amazing how many OpenBook posts from Monday alone contain the words "Sandnigger" "Towelhead" or any variation of them. Then remember that 90% of those people are going to vote in the next election.

I mean, look at the facebook for And That's how the USA outdoes a Royal Wedding. 137,029 people like that. Which I guess I can't complain too much about it since I didn't give a shit about the Royal wedding, but that's $34 million that was spent on an event that was overshadowed two days later.



Then again, how many trillions did we spend in the 9.5 years hunting down this #1 enemy of the state? I'm really starting to see the whole appeal of the phrase Death to America. It's the reaction I feel when I see footage of Americans cheering and dancing in front of the white house like they just won a football game.

If he was alive when the mansion was raided and was just killed, then where's the proof of it? Photos of Saddam hit CNN within a couple of hours of the announcement of his death. If he died in 2005, fine. But if not, by now they should have released proof of his death beyond the "Yo, we capped his ass once in the chest and above the eye. Then we chucked him in the ocean to save some time."

Yeah, that's right. They really actually chucked him into the ocean.

A U.S. official tells CNN that Osama bin Laden has been buried at sea.
The official said his body was handled in the Islamic tradition.
The official did not elaborate.

You know what that means, that there's really no evidence of his death. No body at all. Where's the death certificate, Barry? Otherwise it sounds as if the US SEALs team gunned down a man and his family while he was on his deathbed, then dumped the body into the ocean to make an autopsy impossible.

I know what you're saying and I realize that SEAL kill teams are well known for their cultural sensitivity. You see, we threw the body into the ocean in keeping with the traditions of the nomadic desert peoples....

And maybe I could understand the burial at sea if you put it in a different context. Like you don't want him buried anywhere or taken to the US for risk of a "hunt to find his body" by those radicals.



I'm really surprised they didn't just go with a drone killing him. Just think of how high public support would go through any number of roofs for them. Then again, they couldn't use the excuse of the whole "Human shields" angle if they had just leveled the house from 40k feet.

Besides that, it was a whole lot easier to make a movie about it when it's done in this manner. Get Jack Bauer on the case! I do wonder if Obama gets to keep the $25 million dollar bounty. That would do wonders for his campaign contributions.

You also don't want any shrines or fuel for their fire to pop up. But the government should realize that this is really not the way to handle that and now there is literally zero evidence at all that we killed Obama besides their own words.



I'm not really a conspiracy theorist fan, but the fact that they buried his body at sea and that he was living in the same town as Pakistani Army HQ is intriguing, though obviously the second one reveals information we already knew that Pakistani support for the Taliban/Al Qaeda exist.

It will never get old that we spent tons of money looking for him in remote mountains on the Pakistani/Afghan border when he was living in a giant suburban mansion in Pakistan that we couldn't find because it didn't have phones or internet.

The U.S. will be demanding an explanation from the Pakistani government as to why they were harboring a terrorist and lying to us on many occasions. Pakistani government is going to deny it and refuse. Then Obama is going to put boots on the ground because of Al Qaeda infiltration or something or other and then we'll have World War III.

You would think that Obama wouldn't blow his newly gained political capital invading yet another Muslim country, but I'm more than willing to believe that it's going to happen that way.

You want to know the narrative that will be used for the invasion of Pakistan? Basically that it now appears blatant that Pakistan was knowingly harboring and hiding as well as aiding Bin Laden. How else does a giant mansion come into existence without the help of the state in some form? So we must attack those who would choose to hide the enemies of the U.S.

Ironically enough, in striking down this terrorist, he really did become a figurative Obi-wan Kenobi to the terrorist world. He was never really the leader of al-Quada. He was simply a figurehead. A martyr and a target that the United States could pin all their hatred on.

At best, this whole situation created one less man in their network to worry about, at worse, it will incite more people to join their cause and far outperform him in terms of dangers. It was never really a battle they were going to win anyway. Religion has taught us all other ways to win a war.

I guess the comfort comes in his death knowing that we can sleep easy now and not fear terrorist... Oh wait, what's that? It's time to heighten our airport security? Yup. We're no more safer, in fact we're a little less safer today than we were three days ago.



Then again, all this celebration by Americans makes sense when you realize that most of them think that Al-Qaeda and the insurgents are some James Bond super villain organization with Osama at the top.

To them he's literally Hitler and now all the Islamonazis fighting for the country of Al-Qaeda will just magically surrender. But this isn't their stupid mind's fault. The whole framing of the war on terror as a war itself has been suspect from the very beginning.

They wanted to make their job of stripping us of our civil rights by saying this was a war, but not a normal war. But they also wanted the general acceptance of moral correctness that comes with war.